Şenay, B.Gür, Faik2023-08-152023-08-152022-06-220143-6597http://hdl.handle.net/10679/8676https://doi.org/10.1080/01436597.2022.2085549Over the last two decades, the skilled practice of learning the ney (Sufi reed flute) has gone through a massive revival in Turkey, as part of a broader interest in the revitalised ‘Sufi music’ genre and in Islamic arts learning. One key step in this process has been the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) government’s incorporation of ney teaching into mass public education through its council-run adult education programme (İSMEK). While this development has been pivotal in broadening access to skill attainment in the metropolitan area of Istanbul in significant ways, it has also led to a rationalisation of pedagogical practices, bringing with it transformed understandings of musical skill. To show what this process of rationalisation involves, this article examines skill training encouraged at government-sponsored lesson sites in tandem with a second mode of learning the ney grounded in apprenticeship pedagogy. The divergences emerging from this comparison reveal two very different paths to becoming an expert ney player, demonstrating, in turn, how pedagogical particularities foster different communities of practice.engrestrictedAccessRationalising pedagogy: what counts as skill across musical communities of practice in contemporary Istanbularticle00081376250000110.1080/01436597.2022.2085549Adult educationAKP governmentNeySkill trainingTurkeyİSMEK2-s2.0-85132331963